Comments on: Between a Rock and a Hard Place http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/ Author, Artist, Teacher Wed, 16 May 2012 20:50:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: English Ivy Basket #2 | The Adventures of Urban Scout http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-53447 English Ivy Basket #2 | The Adventures of Urban Scout Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:29:37 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-53447 [...] large rock to do so. I almost began to scour the neighborhood when I remembered, “Wait! I have a huge rock!” So I put the rock to good [...] [...] large rock to do so. I almost began to scour the neighborhood when I remembered, “Wait! I have a huge rock!” So I put the rock to good [...]

]]> By: clickclackgorilla http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-41867 clickclackgorilla Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:40:36 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-41867 so sorry to hear you had to deal with this. it seems to me as well that in a situation where someone in a community feels threatened, people would be better off if they came together instead of judging every move that the effected person makes. i am so out of every political scene loop that i was really, i don't know, shocked/saddened/perplexed to hear about how people who i might have at first (word) glance might have assumed i had something in common with responded to this. just a good reminder to never make assumptions i suppose. someone said above: "perhaps it can serve to show us what community *isn’t* as we strive to re-create what was once a given for every human being." ditto. hope you're feeling better about this incident these days, and that nothing like it happens to you again. so sorry to hear you had to deal with this. it seems to me as well that in a situation where someone in a community feels threatened, people would be better off if they came together instead of judging every move that the effected person makes. i am so out of every political scene loop that i was really, i don’t know, shocked/saddened/perplexed to hear about how people who i might have at first (word) glance might have assumed i had something in common with responded to this. just a good reminder to never make assumptions i suppose. someone said above: “perhaps it can serve to show us what community *isn’t* as we strive to re-create what was once a given for every human being.” ditto. hope you’re feeling better about this incident these days, and that nothing like it happens to you again.

]]> By: Enkidu http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-40809 Enkidu Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:34:11 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-40809 I wouldn't be surprised if it was from the feds, but knowing the hostility coming from Tucker, Zerzan, et al these days it makes more sense to me to suspect them. I think your point about trying to game the systems of civilization in our favor makes sense. Purism can hold us back. Ideally, no we shouldn't deal with these fucked up systems, but how do we expect to accomplish anything without getting our hands dirty? I'm really tired of many of the assholes in the anarchist scene. Considering anarchism is supposed to be inherently anti-oppression, we should be much better than this. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was from the feds, but knowing the hostility coming from Tucker, Zerzan, et al these days it makes more sense to me to suspect them. I think your point about trying to game the systems of civilization in our favor makes sense. Purism can hold us back. Ideally, no we shouldn’t deal with these fucked up systems, but how do we expect to accomplish anything without getting our hands dirty? I’m really tired of many of the assholes in the anarchist scene. Considering anarchism is supposed to be inherently anti-oppression, we should be much better than this.

]]> By: John Feeney http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-38066 John Feeney Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:57:08 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-38066 I read about the incident some weeks ago and think you've handled it just fine. I saw some of the comments about it on another forum (can't recall which) and thought the objections were pretty childish. You've taken the high road to admit you're human and would do some things differently if you had it to do over again. This is an oddball incident, unlike anything most people ever experience. Few people would really know how to respond. And, BTW, it strikes me as ironic that a number of professed anarchists would so insist there was just one right way to handle it. I read about the incident some weeks ago and think you’ve handled it just fine. I saw some of the comments about it on another forum (can’t recall which) and thought the objections were pretty childish. You’ve taken the high road to admit you’re human and would do some things differently if you had it to do over again. This is an oddball incident, unlike anything most people ever experience. Few people would really know how to respond. And, BTW, it strikes me as ironic that a number of professed anarchists would so insist there was just one right way to handle it.

]]> By: Terrapraeta http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-38044 Terrapraeta Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:03:44 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-38044 Hey Scout -- Troubling shit.... whatever "mistakes" you may have made... that's really not something to worry yourself over. And those that tell you to shrug it off, really don't understand that a huge piece of becoming human again is *accepting* that we are human with all of our flaws and learning to share that openly. You know the whole honesty thing. Much harder than learning to skin a 'coon and much more valuable to a community in the long run. So yeah... a thing happened, you reacted, you processed, you shared. All good. Janene Hey Scout –

Troubling shit…. whatever “mistakes” you may have made… that’s really not something to worry yourself over. And those that tell you to shrug it off, really don’t understand that a huge piece of becoming human again is *accepting* that we are human with all of our flaws and learning to share that openly. You know the whole honesty thing. Much harder than learning to skin a ‘coon and much more valuable to a community in the long run.

So yeah… a thing happened, you reacted, you processed, you shared. All good.

Janene

]]> By: Wild Girl http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37835 Wild Girl Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:50:42 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37835 I think this rock incident reeks of classic FBI cointelpro, actually, with the obvious intention of splintering you off from some of your supporters by making you believe you were threatened by the people who actually support your work. Classic divide and conquer domestic psy-ops warfare. I think this rock incident reeks of classic FBI cointelpro, actually, with the obvious intention of splintering you off from some of your supporters by making you believe you were threatened by the people who actually support your work. Classic divide and conquer domestic psy-ops warfare.

]]> By: pennilesscripple http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37586 pennilesscripple Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:30:31 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37586 very sorry to hear about this incident, scout, and i can imagine it was unnerving and scary on a number of levels. i hope writing about it helped. perhaps it can serve to show us what community *isn't* as we strive to re-create what was once a given for every human being. i trust it won't give green anarchists a bad name for you or others--i don't identify with 'isms' and try to avoid using them, but green anarchy is a superb journal and the discussions around that topic are very valuable. in my world, a green anarchist would be, above all, gentle regarding others' well being, so whoever did this is using an incorrect 'ism' to identify himself. and if this person really needs to have an enemy, maybe he should try the CEO of monsanto or someone who is truly doing some major harm. your points about the powers that be trying to divide and conquer resistance are also spot on. this is something we all need to focus on, and stop squabbling so damn much. fragmentation, isolation, and alienation keep this system running. i like how you turned this distressing event into a learning experience. take good care. very sorry to hear about this incident, scout, and i can imagine it was unnerving and scary on a number of levels. i hope writing about it helped. perhaps it can serve to show us what community *isn’t* as we strive to re-create what was once a given for every human being.

i trust it won’t give green anarchists a bad name for you or others–i don’t identify with ‘isms’ and try to avoid using them, but green anarchy is a superb journal and the discussions around that topic are very valuable. in my world, a green anarchist would be, above all, gentle regarding others’ well being, so whoever did this is using an incorrect ‘ism’ to identify himself. and if this person really needs to have an enemy, maybe he should try the CEO of monsanto or someone who is truly doing some major harm.

your points about the powers that be trying to divide and conquer resistance are also spot on. this is something we all need to focus on, and stop squabbling so damn much. fragmentation, isolation, and alienation keep this system running.

i like how you turned this distressing event into a learning experience. take good care.

]]> By: Ronja Aarniala http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37461 Ronja Aarniala Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:01:24 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/#comment-37461 I admire you, Scout. I didn't read your post whole, but want to say, that always when someone is what they are and does what they want, walking their path with certainty, people feel strong feelings towards them. The feelings they show and the way they show them may tell more of themselves than of you. As I see you walking your path, I feel joy, both for you and me. I'm glad that your beauty unfolds so freely to this space that is the world. I also realize of how simple it is, in the end, for me to walk my path. That a similarly natural lifestyle is doable in my homeland, with similar humor and grace. If someone has shown you bitterness or hate, or you have interpreted their emotion as such - it may be, I speculate, that they feel for example a wish for similar courage to walk their respective, and as wild (regardless of their philosophy), path - out of their possible tragic interpretation that, since you are being yourself with an innocent and happy pride, you would be "more worthy" than them, and their following wish to receive from someone a validation of the worthiness of their own persona. Of course, everyone is brave, beautiful, wild and free. Some of us have just forgotten it, because no one has told it to us in some time. That's why I'm happy that you exist, because your example inspires me. And it's why I praise you, that you would remember. <3 Cybertherapy from Finland :D I admire you, Scout.

I didn’t read your post whole, but want to say, that always when someone is what they are and does what they want, walking their path with certainty, people feel strong feelings towards them. The feelings they show and the way they show them may tell more of themselves than of you.

As I see you walking your path, I feel joy, both for you and me. I’m glad that your beauty unfolds so freely to this space that is the world. I also realize of how simple it is, in the end, for me to walk my path. That a similarly natural lifestyle is doable in my homeland, with similar humor and grace.

If someone has shown you bitterness or hate, or you have interpreted their emotion as such – it may be, I speculate, that they feel for example a wish for similar courage to walk their respective, and as wild (regardless of their philosophy), path – out of their possible tragic interpretation that, since you are being yourself with an innocent and happy pride, you would be “more worthy” than them, and their following wish to receive from someone a validation of the worthiness of their own persona. Of course, everyone is brave, beautiful, wild and free. Some of us have just forgotten it, because no one has told it to us in some time.

That’s why I’m happy that you exist, because your example inspires me. And it’s why I praise you, that you would remember. <3

Cybertherapy from Finland :D

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