Comments on: Enduring the Winter Cold, Guilt http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/ Hunter-Gatherer Wannabe With A Blog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:02:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia » Blog Archive » Week… 30-something? http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-7807 Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia » Blog Archive » Week… 30-something? Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:33:19 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-7807 [...] Last winter I wrote a blog about how guilty I feel when I stay indoors during the winter. My reasoning for not feeling guilty involved my claim that natives of this region stayed mostly in their cedar long houses during this time of year. Than, a few days ago I cam across this quote in Keeping It Living referencing Lewis and Clark journals: …the roots were collected “chiefly by the women” who would remain in the water for several hours even in the “depth of winter.” [...] […] Last winter I wrote a blog about how guilty I feel when I stay indoors during the winter. My reasoning for not feeling guilty involved my claim that natives of this region stayed mostly in their cedar long houses during this time of year. Than, a few days ago I cam across this quote in Keeping It Living referencing Lewis and Clark journals: …the roots were collected “chiefly by the women” who would remain in the water for several hours even in the “depth of winter.” […]

]]> By: JCamasto http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-54 JCamasto Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:12:11 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-54 When the sun, source of all our energy, goes to sleep for the winter - the living world around us does, as well. Even simple molecules and atoms respond accordingly, slowing down in the cold... But our culture compels us to forget what we feel in our bones, repressing our own reflexes and instincts, until we can't even gag up the bullshit. When the sun, source of all our energy, goes to sleep for the winter - the living world around us does, as well. Even simple molecules and atoms respond accordingly, slowing down in the cold…

But our culture compels us to forget what we feel in our bones, repressing our own reflexes and instincts, until we can’t even gag up the bullshit.

]]> By: Saral http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-48 Saral Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:19:51 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-48 Scout, I wonder a little about why you aren't outside more. I mean, don't you need to be working on your cold weather foot callouses or something? just kidding. It's winter man - if you haven't gained some nice paddage around the belly from sitting on your ass and hibernating, well, you're just that much further from "nativity." Spring is the time to shake it and make it baby. Scout, I wonder a little about why you aren’t outside more. I mean, don’t you need to be working on your cold weather foot callouses or something? just kidding. It’s winter man - if you haven’t gained some nice paddage around the belly from sitting on your ass and hibernating, well, you’re just that much further from “nativity.” Spring is the time to shake it and make it baby.

]]> By: Urban Scout http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-42 Urban Scout Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:34:47 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-42 PennyScout, Haha. Maybe if Cheif "Cornflower" spent less time planting corn and more time drying meats and fermenting foods he wouldn't have to hunt during the cold. Sounds like he's got the "Cornflower Blues." Rory, I like the primitivist kama sutra! That's hilarious. I appreciate your comments. Thanks! Devin, Our parallels are creepy and awesome. I wonder how many others who don't use the internet are tapping into what we've done. Like flight being developed around the world all at once, how many others do you think have our ideas? It's a pretty cool thing. PennyScout,

Haha. Maybe if Cheif “Cornflower” spent less time planting corn and more time drying meats and fermenting foods he wouldn’t have to hunt during the cold. Sounds like he’s got the “Cornflower Blues.”

Rory,

I like the primitivist kama sutra! That’s hilarious. I appreciate your comments. Thanks!

Devin,

Our parallels are creepy and awesome. I wonder how many others who don’t use the internet are tapping into what we’ve done. Like flight being developed around the world all at once, how many others do you think have our ideas? It’s a pretty cool thing.

]]> By: Devin http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-36 Devin Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:14:14 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-36 You know, it really is scary how similar our approach and situation is. Right now I'm living on a small inheritance, no job, and am temporarily "couch-surfing" at my parents' house. I'm currently feeling a bit guilty about living with my parents, even though I've barely moved back in from the Teaching Drum, having spent this last week with friends who were back from college and prior to that being on vacations with my family. "I feel I should spend more time “outdoors.”" and "I should be experiencing a feeling of freedom" -- Haha, oh man do I know these feelings. "Goddammit what is wrong with me I'm supposed to be feeling free right now!" It's a vicious circle for me, that's for sure -- when I'm in this mindset I often experience the double bind of "I am required and obligated to feel free". I start to feel guilty about feeling guilty! "Get your bullshit values out of my fucking head!" Crazy, I've been meaning to write something with a very similar theme to that, about how I hear voices and <i>they're not my own</i>. How I often feel like screaming "Shut the fuck up! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD!" Right on. - Devin You know, it really is scary how similar our approach and situation is. Right now I’m living on a small inheritance, no job, and am temporarily “couch-surfing” at my parents’ house. I’m currently feeling a bit guilty about living with my parents, even though I’ve barely moved back in from the Teaching Drum, having spent this last week with friends who were back from college and prior to that being on vacations with my family.

“I feel I should spend more time “outdoors.”” and “I should be experiencing a feeling of freedom” — Haha, oh man do I know these feelings. “Goddammit what is wrong with me I’m supposed to be feeling free right now!” It’s a vicious circle for me, that’s for sure — when I’m in this mindset I often experience the double bind of “I am required and obligated to feel free”. I start to feel guilty about feeling guilty!

“Get your bullshit values out of my fucking head!”

Crazy, I’ve been meaning to write something with a very similar theme to that, about how I hear voices and they’re not my own. How I often feel like screaming “Shut the fuck up! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD!”

Right on.
- Devin

]]> By: Rory http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-33 Rory Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:51:47 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-33 I know that feeling very well, Scout. I maintain a busy busy schedule, paralegal stuff, recording studio stuff, as well as writing, recording, filming, gardening, and all kinds of other crap. I'll probably say Davinci's last words on my death bed, "I could have done so much more....". But I always feel guilty for not "doing more" or "being productive". Especially in the wintertime. Yet another of Civ's memes to try to exorcise. I really liked the last two paragraphs. When can I look forward to reading the Urban Scout's Little Book of Tracking? or more along my tastes "THe Primitivist Kama Sutra, or How to Make Love in a Debris Hut"? oh yeah, and fuck Chief Cornplanter too. I know that feeling very well, Scout. I maintain a busy busy schedule, paralegal stuff, recording studio stuff, as well as writing, recording, filming, gardening, and all kinds of other crap. I’ll probably say Davinci’s last words on my death bed, “I could have done so much more….”.

But I always feel guilty for not “doing more” or “being productive”. Especially in the wintertime. Yet another of Civ’s memes to try to exorcise.

I really liked the last two paragraphs. When can I look forward to reading the Urban Scout’s Little Book of Tracking? or more along my tastes “THe Primitivist Kama Sutra, or How to Make Love in a Debris Hut”?

oh yeah, and fuck Chief Cornplanter too.

]]> By: PennyScout http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-32 PennyScout Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:36:19 +0000 http://www.urbanscout.org/enduring-the-winter-cold-guilt/#comment-32 hey scout-i know just what you mean. guilt is one of my main problems in life. And the conclusion I've come to is that it is a waste of time, because I don't think "oh i feel so guilty about not going outside" and then get up and rush outside, I just get depressed and become even more inactive. Yup, best to just do whatever you want, watch movies and read until you can't stand it any longer and your body is just dying to get out. Then it will feel so good. Or other times it is nice to just go for it get out for a while get REALLY cold and wet and dirty and then come back in when it gets dark and sit next to a fire, eat a warm dinner, crawl into a clean bed. mmmm contrast. This doesn't support your conclusion but I was reading and they asked chief cornplanter why he didn't chink the walls of his cabin, and he replied that then it would be too warm inside and no one would want to go hunting in the winter. But screw cornplanter. He was a sellout. Sold most of the senecas land to the white people and his own private reservation, land that was awarded to him and his descendants for being such a good friend to the whites, is some of the only seneca land left. hey scout-i know just what you mean. guilt is one of my main problems in life. And the conclusion I’ve come to is that it is a waste of time, because I don’t think “oh i feel so guilty about not going outside” and then get up and rush outside, I just get depressed and become even more inactive. Yup, best to just do whatever you want, watch movies and read until you can’t stand it any longer and your body is just dying to get out. Then it will feel so good. Or other times it is nice to just go for it get out for a while get REALLY cold and wet and dirty and then come back in when it gets dark and sit next to a fire, eat a warm dinner, crawl into a clean bed. mmmm contrast.
This doesn’t support your conclusion but I was reading and they asked chief cornplanter why he didn’t chink the walls of his cabin, and he replied that then it would be too warm inside and no one would want to go hunting in the winter. But screw cornplanter. He was a sellout. Sold most of the senecas land to the white people and his own private reservation, land that was awarded to him and his descendants for being such a good friend to the whites, is some of the only seneca land left.

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