you mention that you feel a vegan diet adds to the population. that seems misleading to me. sex leads to population growth, not diet. sure, we could easily feed even our grossly overpopulated current numbers with a change to non animal based diets, but we can bring that into effect without anyone ever eating a single grain. we could all live happily on kudzu and beggars tick for the most part, foraging and gathering what we need from the wild without ever firing up a single tractor or tying a single plow to anyone.

i dont like the term vegan for the same reasons you appear opposed to the term green. but that need not mean the original uncorrupted concepts contain any flaw. i believe we can live in a sustainable way, but to me that more so involves oral sex and learning what wild ‘invasive’ plants we can eat and use for medicine and birth control than necessarily abolishing all techniques and technologies accumulated by the civilizations that brought us to this current state. for instance, bulldozers already exist, we need make no more but from what i hear some among us understand how to run them on water. they may offer the potential to relatively quickly reforest areas we turned to desert by digging swales without the use of massive labor.

i dont consider sustainability and civilization mutually exclusive. in many ancient civilizations sustainability seems evident at least in the area of food production, franklin hiram king wrote a book you might enjoy looking at back in the very early 1900’s about farming methods in the far east. gutenberg free online book project hosts it i believe. thanks for putting this site up by the way, i enjoy your thought provoking writing although it seems ironic to hear you condemn electricity on a web site. but the web exists, so why not use it, if for no other reason than to attempt to dismantle the empire that created it. when tied to an ore one has but two choices, row or die. while we row we can sing a song about freedom but that seems the only protest life affords. to me, a slave ship well embodies the concept of civilization. going ‘green’ or going ‘vegan’ sounds to me like rowing slower, what you suggest sounds like death.

green energy does exist, i call them plants. sustainable simply means that which can be sustained, since change is the only constant nothing therefore is sustainable in perpetuity so the very essence of the word is relative. with that view in mind, everything is therefore only more or less sustainable. in the scope of human history even extremely dense populations exhibit the potential for long term sustainability with the proper understanding and implementation of age old farming methods. the quantity of food production need not be the basis for population growth. population growth need have nothing to do with food production except when the availability of food becomes a limiting factor. vegan raw food choices couldnt offer more sustainability, and the current western diet could hardly offer less sustainability than it does. nice try, but you might want to rethink that bit. over all you make a lot of interesting points, i just hate to see them mixed in with such an obvious misconception.

I think that might be my new slogan!

Thanks for referring me to that graphic novel. It looks rad. Keep up the good work.