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	<description>Hunter-Gatherer Wannabe With A Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Urban Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-34294</link>
		<dc:creator>Urban Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-34294</guid>
		<description>Woah! Awesome. Thanks for the ninja tip Galdr!</description>
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		<title>By: Galdr</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-34290</link>
		<dc:creator>Galdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-34290</guid>
		<description>i hunt geese in a park near downtown in a rather large eastcoast city on a semi-regular basis. the most efficient and 'ninja' method i have found is using my pellet rifle. it's a cheap piston driven crossman (about $100 with scope; hey, the currency is fake, why not use it?) that makes almost no sound and fires a copper-jacketed pellet at close to the speed of sound (about 1050fps). A head-shot will put a goose down, and it never knows what hit it. Also, if you target the female in a pair, the male will investigate his partner's sudden demise, allowing for another shot and possible 'two-for.'
Good hunting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hunt geese in a park near downtown in a rather large eastcoast city on a semi-regular basis. the most efficient and &#8216;ninja&#8217; method i have found is using my pellet rifle. it&#8217;s a cheap piston driven crossman (about $100 with scope; hey, the currency is fake, why not use it?) that makes almost no sound and fires a copper-jacketed pellet at close to the speed of sound (about 1050fps). A head-shot will put a goose down, and it never knows what hit it. Also, if you target the female in a pair, the male will investigate his partner&#8217;s sudden demise, allowing for another shot and possible &#8216;two-for.&#8217;<br />
Good hunting.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Metcalf</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Metcalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-10123</guid>
		<description>US,
I haven't hunted geese but I have hunted wild turkeys, (a similarly sized bird).  A box trap works on turkeys and I bet it will work on geese, especially urban geese.  I made mine with a small trap door in the far end so that I can reach in and grab the bird by the neck and twist it till it breaks. Wear a leather glove for that.

I immediately pluck turkeys starting at the extremities because the feathers pull best when the bird is still warm and the extremities,(wings and legs) cool the fastest. When I get them plucked then I put them in the kitchen sink and clean them.  Gut from the back end and remove the gullet from the neck end then rinse out the body cavity with cold water to clean and cool the carcass. Same basic procedure as with any bird that you want to cook whole.

The feathers have many obvious uses. The down is really good for any of the usual things that are stuffed with goose down. Fat can be used for cooking, oiling things that need it, like wood surfaces, leather items, or for fat lamps.
Wing and leg bones are hollow and very light. They can be used for whistles, beads, or for drinking tubes.  A drinking tube can be very handy for drinking straight out of a small puddle or a small spring without stirring up sediment.

I would not feel bad about harvesting eggs, especially in urban areas.  Up here in BC most municipalities are trying like hell to figure out how to reduce or at least control the goose population without offending tourists, yuppies and animal rights people. Not that these folks don't want to get rid of the geese, they just don't want to have to watch it being done. I'm pretty sure they are nesting right now it may even be too late in some areas. The eggs may be hatched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US,<br />
I haven&#8217;t hunted geese but I have hunted wild turkeys, (a similarly sized bird).  A box trap works on turkeys and I bet it will work on geese, especially urban geese.  I made mine with a small trap door in the far end so that I can reach in and grab the bird by the neck and twist it till it breaks. Wear a leather glove for that.</p>
<p>I immediately pluck turkeys starting at the extremities because the feathers pull best when the bird is still warm and the extremities,(wings and legs) cool the fastest. When I get them plucked then I put them in the kitchen sink and clean them.  Gut from the back end and remove the gullet from the neck end then rinse out the body cavity with cold water to clean and cool the carcass. Same basic procedure as with any bird that you want to cook whole.</p>
<p>The feathers have many obvious uses. The down is really good for any of the usual things that are stuffed with goose down. Fat can be used for cooking, oiling things that need it, like wood surfaces, leather items, or for fat lamps.<br />
Wing and leg bones are hollow and very light. They can be used for whistles, beads, or for drinking tubes.  A drinking tube can be very handy for drinking straight out of a small puddle or a small spring without stirring up sediment.</p>
<p>I would not feel bad about harvesting eggs, especially in urban areas.  Up here in BC most municipalities are trying like hell to figure out how to reduce or at least control the goose population without offending tourists, yuppies and animal rights people. Not that these folks don&#8217;t want to get rid of the geese, they just don&#8217;t want to have to watch it being done. I&#8217;m pretty sure they are nesting right now it may even be too late in some areas. The eggs may be hatched.</p>
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		<title>By: rix</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-218</guid>
		<description>Alright, Scout, you MoFo.  You put this e-prime bug in my brain, and I seem to suck at it.  I don’t like sucking at stuff, so behold my attempt to learn the art of e-priming via tackling the slips that sonnymoonie pointed out.

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&lt;b&gt;Original:&lt;/b&gt;
When baby geese, or goslings, hatch their eyes &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; open, their bodies covered with down, and they have the ability to walk.
&lt;b&gt;Revision:&lt;/b&gt;
Baby geese, or goslings, hatch with open eyes, their bodies covered in down, and they have the ability to walk.
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&lt;b&gt;Original:&lt;/b&gt;
Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity (if the geese &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; on land) to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.
&lt;b&gt;Revision:&lt;/b&gt;
Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity to a goose on land to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.
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&lt;b&gt;Original:&lt;/b&gt;
Humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets to get the amino acids that &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; found there.
&lt;b&gt;Revision:&lt;/b&gt;
In order to get enough amino acids, humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets.
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&lt;b&gt;Original:&lt;/b&gt;
Geese seem &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;to be&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.
&lt;b&gt;Revision:&lt;/b&gt;
Geese provide the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.
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&lt;b&gt;Original:&lt;/b&gt;
Geese have long &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;been&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; mythologized. In the past they have &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;been&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; recognized for their fidelity towards family;
&lt;b&gt;Revision:&lt;/b&gt; (already provided by sonnymoonie)
Geese have long figured in mythology. In the past they have earned recognition for their fidelity towards family;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, Scout, you MoFo.  You put this e-prime bug in my brain, and I seem to suck at it.  I don’t like sucking at stuff, so behold my attempt to learn the art of e-priming via tackling the slips that sonnymoonie pointed out.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b>Original:</b><br />
When baby geese, or goslings, hatch their eyes <b><i>are</i></b> open, their bodies covered with down, and they have the ability to walk.<br />
<b>Revision:</b><br />
Baby geese, or goslings, hatch with open eyes, their bodies covered in down, and they have the ability to walk.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b>Original:</b><br />
Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity (if the geese <b><i>are</i></b> on land) to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.<br />
<b>Revision:</b><br />
Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity to a goose on land to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b>Original:</b><br />
Humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets to get the amino acids that <b><i>are</i></b> found there.<br />
<b>Revision:</b><br />
In order to get enough amino acids, humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b>Original:</b><br />
Geese seem <b><i>to be</i></b> the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.<br />
<b>Revision:</b><br />
Geese provide the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b>Original:</b><br />
Geese have long <b><i>been</i></b> mythologized. In the past they have <b><i>been</i></b> recognized for their fidelity towards family;<br />
<b>Revision:</b> (already provided by sonnymoonie)<br />
Geese have long figured in mythology. In the past they have earned recognition for their fidelity towards family;</p>
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		<title>By: The College of Mythic Cartography &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Loss of the Free Lands</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>The College of Mythic Cartography &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Loss of the Free Lands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-203</guid>
		<description>[...] That steals the common from the goose.   -Oliver Goldsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] That steals the common from the goose.   -Oliver Goldsmith [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Urban Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-197</guid>
		<description>Holy shit! How did I miss all of those??? Thanks for letting me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit! How did I miss all of those??? Thanks for letting me know!</p>
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		<title>By: sonnymoonie</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>sonnymoonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-196</guid>
		<description>The following obsessive attention to detail I would rather not post, but you seem to have asked for comments about your attempt at E-prime.

forms not found: am, is, was, were, being

forms found: are, be, been

"are":

&#62;When baby geese, or goslings, hatch their eyes are open, their bodies covered with down, and they have the ability to walk.

You've connected a noun to an adjective using "are." You didn't make "are" the only verb in the sentence. In overall effect you haven't strayed far from E-prime.

&#62;Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity (if the geese are on land) to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.

You've connected a noun to a prepositional phrase using "are." Still not far from E-prime.

&#62;Humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets to get the amino acids that are found there.

You've connected a noun to a past participle verb phrase using "that are," superfluously. Still not far from E-prime. When a passive voice construction without a be-verb comes naturally, it probably doesn't deserve rewriting to specify a subject.

"be":

&#62;Geese seem to be the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.

You've gone to the worst extreme of B-English, not simply connecting a noun with a noun phrase, but equating a living thing with a use for it by humans. Your insertion of "seem" here simply takes the sentence further from the ideals of clarity and strong verbs associated with E-prime. Who does the seeming? The geese? Geese seem to themselves to constitute essentially a source of fats? For humans? (Of course I can understand and accept the sentence as very well put, so long as I'm not judging it in terms of E-prime.)

"been":

&#62;Geese have long been mythologized. In the past they have been recognized for their fidelity towards family; ...

Here by using the passive voice construction, repeatedly, you avoid specifying a subject. If you want to maintain the effect of avoiding mention of the implied subject, humans, when speaking of geese as people, you can do that within the limits of E-prime. For example, I would rewrite it as "Geese have long figured in mythology. In the past they have earned recognition for their fidelity towards family; ..." That makes a good example of how E-prime forces a higher vocabulary count, just to say the same thing. Using a higher vocabulary count may improve your writing or make it stilted or diffuse, depending on how well you choose different words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following obsessive attention to detail I would rather not post, but you seem to have asked for comments about your attempt at E-prime.</p>
<p>forms not found: am, is, was, were, being</p>
<p>forms found: are, be, been</p>
<p>&#8220;are&#8221;:</p>
<p>&gt;When baby geese, or goslings, hatch their eyes are open, their bodies covered with down, and they have the ability to walk.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve connected a noun to an adjective using &#8220;are.&#8221; You didn&#8217;t make &#8220;are&#8221; the only verb in the sentence. In overall effect you haven&#8217;t strayed far from E-prime.</p>
<p>&gt;Due to their aggressive nature of choosing fight over flight, one may get close enough in proximity (if the geese are on land) to use a simple lance, throwing stick or club.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve connected a noun to a prepositional phrase using &#8220;are.&#8221; Still not far from E-prime.</p>
<p>&gt;Humans need a certain amount of fat in their diets to get the amino acids that are found there.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve connected a noun to a past participle verb phrase using &#8220;that are,&#8221; superfluously. Still not far from E-prime. When a passive voice construction without a be-verb comes naturally, it probably doesn&#8217;t deserve rewriting to specify a subject.</p>
<p>&#8220;be&#8221;:</p>
<p>&gt;Geese seem to be the best source for low-toxin fats in an urban environment.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve gone to the worst extreme of B-English, not simply connecting a noun with a noun phrase, but equating a living thing with a use for it by humans. Your insertion of &#8220;seem&#8221; here simply takes the sentence further from the ideals of clarity and strong verbs associated with E-prime. Who does the seeming? The geese? Geese seem to themselves to constitute essentially a source of fats? For humans? (Of course I can understand and accept the sentence as very well put, so long as I&#8217;m not judging it in terms of E-prime.)</p>
<p>&#8220;been&#8221;:</p>
<p>&gt;Geese have long been mythologized. In the past they have been recognized for their fidelity towards family; &#8230;</p>
<p>Here by using the passive voice construction, repeatedly, you avoid specifying a subject. If you want to maintain the effect of avoiding mention of the implied subject, humans, when speaking of geese as people, you can do that within the limits of E-prime. For example, I would rewrite it as &#8220;Geese have long figured in mythology. In the past they have earned recognition for their fidelity towards family; &#8230;&#8221; That makes a good example of how E-prime forces a higher vocabulary count, just to say the same thing. Using a higher vocabulary count may improve your writing or make it stilted or diffuse, depending on how well you choose different words.</p>
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		<title>By: PennyScout</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>PennyScout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-194</guid>
		<description>You could definitely get close to an angry goose. You can chase one and it will run and then if you turn your back it will run after you and you can go back and forth like that for a while. But urban geese may eat right out of your hand depending on how urban they are. Kind of takes the sport out of things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could definitely get close to an angry goose. You can chase one and it will run and then if you turn your back it will run after you and you can go back and forth like that for a while. But urban geese may eat right out of your hand depending on how urban they are. Kind of takes the sport out of things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rix</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-193</guid>
		<description>[They will aggressively defend themselves if approached. This behavior escalates from the bobbing of their head, to the quicker more agitated pumping of their head and ending by attacking with their wings or jabbing with their beaks (hence the term “goosing”). ]

This gives me an idea.  I have logged a lot of time playing &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG" rel="nofollow"&gt;MMORPGs&lt;/a&gt; over the last few years.  Often a tactic used in playing called "pulling" is used.  Pulling is the art of trying to get a lone enemy to chase after you to where you can get him alone and beat him up without all his friends to back him up.  Pulling is possible because of "aggro" (short for aggravation) -- the game mechanic where by the enemy decides to target you and engage in combat.

It seems to me that geese have a lot of aggro, and I'm wondering if you can use that to your advantage in trying to hunt them.  Since their aggressive nature will cause them to chase you, you could perhaps get one away from the rest of their flock (so as not to startle the other birds to flight) to where you can "engage" it in "combat"--either by striking it with a missile of some sort (be it atlatl dart, arrow, spear or sling-shot rock) or hitting it with your rabbitstick to break its neck.  There's also the way my grandmother used to kill chickens: wringing their necks.  Although, I imagine a 15 pound bird would be hard to sling.  But hopefully, by drawing ones aggro, you can get within striking distance.

The mental image I have is of the Urban Scout in a city park by a pond, in his loin cloth and mud camo, being chased by an angry gander who is madly trying to "goose" Scout on the back of the knee.  Scout swiftly turns about to face the bird and with one fierce and swift swing of his stick, the gander is a goner.  With one more fluid motion, Scout has scooped up the corpse, stuffed it in a bag.  He then dives into the underbrush, invisible to the unsuspecting park visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[They will aggressively defend themselves if approached. This behavior escalates from the bobbing of their head, to the quicker more agitated pumping of their head and ending by attacking with their wings or jabbing with their beaks (hence the term “goosing”). ]</p>
<p>This gives me an idea.  I have logged a lot of time playing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG" rel="nofollow">MMORPGs</a> over the last few years.  Often a tactic used in playing called &#8220;pulling&#8221; is used.  Pulling is the art of trying to get a lone enemy to chase after you to where you can get him alone and beat him up without all his friends to back him up.  Pulling is possible because of &#8220;aggro&#8221; (short for aggravation) &#8212; the game mechanic where by the enemy decides to target you and engage in combat.</p>
<p>It seems to me that geese have a lot of aggro, and I&#8217;m wondering if you can use that to your advantage in trying to hunt them.  Since their aggressive nature will cause them to chase you, you could perhaps get one away from the rest of their flock (so as not to startle the other birds to flight) to where you can &#8220;engage&#8221; it in &#8220;combat&#8221;&#8211;either by striking it with a missile of some sort (be it atlatl dart, arrow, spear or sling-shot rock) or hitting it with your rabbitstick to break its neck.  There&#8217;s also the way my grandmother used to kill chickens: wringing their necks.  Although, I imagine a 15 pound bird would be hard to sling.  But hopefully, by drawing ones aggro, you can get within striking distance.</p>
<p>The mental image I have is of the Urban Scout in a city park by a pond, in his loin cloth and mud camo, being chased by an angry gander who is madly trying to &#8220;goose&#8221; Scout on the back of the knee.  Scout swiftly turns about to face the bird and with one fierce and swift swing of his stick, the gander is a goner.  With one more fluid motion, Scout has scooped up the corpse, stuffed it in a bag.  He then dives into the underbrush, invisible to the unsuspecting park visitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Willem</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Willem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/oh-canada-goose/#comment-189</guid>
		<description>Nice job e-priming the pump! 

Geese. Who would've thought? Long live the Geese Family! Ahonk-hink!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job e-priming the pump! </p>
<p>Geese. Who would&#8217;ve thought? Long live the Geese Family! Ahonk-hink!</p>
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