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	<title>Comments on: Schooling Vs. Rewilding</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MattK</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-35145</link>
		<dc:creator>MattK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-35145</guid>
		<description>Though I still believe that everyone needs to have access to good education, you have valid reasons for opposing the methods used for schooling.  It should also be mentioned that according to the jungian type indicator on mypersonality.info, about 80% of the population express sensing characteristics as opposed to intuiting characteristics.  65% are sensing learners.

"Sensing learners are focused on aspects of the physical environment. Jung described these individuals as being interested in the external world. They tend to be realistic and practical, preferring to rely on information gained through experience. While people with a sensing learning style enjoy order and routines, they also tend to be very quick to adapt to changing environments and situations. - psychology.about.com

You have facts here to back yourself up about how most people naturally learn.  Sadly, I am the intuiting type who didn't use his hands so much in his childhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I still believe that everyone needs to have access to good education, you have valid reasons for opposing the methods used for schooling.  It should also be mentioned that according to the jungian type indicator on mypersonality.info, about 80% of the population express sensing characteristics as opposed to intuiting characteristics.  65% are sensing learners.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sensing learners are focused on aspects of the physical environment. Jung described these individuals as being interested in the external world. They tend to be realistic and practical, preferring to rely on information gained through experience. While people with a sensing learning style enjoy order and routines, they also tend to be very quick to adapt to changing environments and situations. - psychology.about.com</p>
<p>You have facts here to back yourself up about how most people naturally learn.  Sadly, I am the intuiting type who didn&#8217;t use his hands so much in his childhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Person</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-29585</link>
		<dc:creator>Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-29585</guid>
		<description>Just because you had a bad experience with people who did well in school does not mean that they are any less informed about such things than you. In my experience they have been a lot more informed than the average, "normal" person and just as full of optimism to change and create as anyone else. They are simply going about it a different way than you. That does not make it worse. Only different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you had a bad experience with people who did well in school does not mean that they are any less informed about such things than you. In my experience they have been a lot more informed than the average, &#8220;normal&#8221; person and just as full of optimism to change and create as anyone else. They are simply going about it a different way than you. That does not make it worse. Only different.</p>
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		<title>By: MattK</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-29239</link>
		<dc:creator>MattK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-29239</guid>
		<description>I have some counter-arguments to some of this writing.  First, I would not have ANY friends if my parents did not pay for me to go through high school and for my first year at college.  That's how I've meet people.  New relationships can be found when you are in a schooling.  Second, had I dropped out of high school at your age, I would have never been interested in the idea of rewilding.  Thanks to the independent reading assignments my English teacher gave my senior year in high school, I read Ishmael which changed my perception of the world.  

I am expected to graduate from college and I hope I can with a major that I am passionate about as there will be unforeseen consequences, especially with my family if I do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some counter-arguments to some of this writing.  First, I would not have ANY friends if my parents did not pay for me to go through high school and for my first year at college.  That&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve meet people.  New relationships can be found when you are in a schooling.  Second, had I dropped out of high school at your age, I would have never been interested in the idea of rewilding.  Thanks to the independent reading assignments my English teacher gave my senior year in high school, I read Ishmael which changed my perception of the world.  </p>
<p>I am expected to graduate from college and I hope I can with a major that I am passionate about as there will be unforeseen consequences, especially with my family if I do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Destroying Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24427</link>
		<dc:creator>Destroying Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24427</guid>
		<description>scout - regarding the program that you were going to embark on, but someone else stole your thunder..... would you be unwilling to come to the eastern part of the continent if we paid your way... round- trip?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scout - regarding the program that you were going to embark on, but someone else stole your thunder&#8230;.. would you be unwilling to come to the eastern part of the continent if we paid your way&#8230; round- trip?</p>
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		<title>By: Destroying Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24425</link>
		<dc:creator>Destroying Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24425</guid>
		<description>oh yeah - check out http://reinvent09.blogspot.com/ if you're interested...

 best wishes,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah - check out <a href="http://reinvent09.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://reinvent09.blogspot.com/</a> if you&#8217;re interested&#8230;</p>
<p> best wishes,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Destroying Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24424</link>
		<dc:creator>Destroying Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24424</guid>
		<description>holy shit, I guess you struck a cord.... ok, everybody hated school. Now what do we do about it? How about a FREE school (aka grant funds pay for "necessities") where instructors live, work, play the life of REWILDER, as example/teacher to participants/students, who give nothing more than what time, energy, insight and money, if any, they voluntarily donate?

 IS THIS SO FAR-FETCHED?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit, I guess you struck a cord&#8230;. ok, everybody hated school. Now what do we do about it? How about a FREE school (aka grant funds pay for &#8220;necessities&#8221;) where instructors live, work, play the life of REWILDER, as example/teacher to participants/students, who give nothing more than what time, energy, insight and money, if any, they voluntarily donate?</p>
<p> IS THIS SO FAR-FETCHED?</p>
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		<title>By: Ask Urban Scout: Rewilding Schools? &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24411</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask Urban Scout: Rewilding Schools? &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-24411</guid>
		<description>[...] But mostly I recommend starting a community in your own place: see my chapter &#8220;Schooling Vs. Rewilding&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] But mostly I recommend starting a community in your own place: see my chapter &#8220;Schooling Vs. Rewilding&#8220; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Pacific Northwest Rewild Camp Tour &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-22208</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacific Northwest Rewild Camp Tour &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-22208</guid>
		<description>[...] 4. I need people who have skills to share for free/trade. The idea behind these events is to &#8220;unlock&#8221; the knowledge of how to live sustainably from the monetary economy, and build communities in the process. For more on that philosophy see my &#8220;Schooling Vs. Rewilding.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 4. I need people who have skills to share for free/trade. The idea behind these events is to &#8220;unlock&#8221; the knowledge of how to live sustainably from the monetary economy, and build communities in the process. For more on that philosophy see my &#8220;Schooling Vs. Rewilding.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: W66,67: Perma-fried &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-21968</link>
		<dc:creator>W66,67: Perma-fried &#124; Urban Scout: Rewilding Cascadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-21968</guid>
		<description>[...] Maybe I could sell adspace to wilderness schools, if I would stop pissing them off with Schooling Vs. Rewilding. I guess I&#8217;ll have to rely on generous tips from readers like you. Yeah, you. Won&#8217;t you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Maybe I could sell adspace to wilderness schools, if I would stop pissing them off with Schooling Vs. Rewilding. I guess I&#8217;ll have to rely on generous tips from readers like you. Yeah, you. Won&#8217;t you [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-15562</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-15562</guid>
		<description>I'm at an age when one of two things are expected of me: go to school or get a job.  I'm at an age where everyone calls me an adult, but they still think of me as a kid.  I'm at an age that, at least in this society, makes life hectic and frustrating and not very fun at all. (I'm 20.)

I've attended 3 semesters of college, but it's been a year since the last one.  Everyone asks me "Are you going to school?"  For a while I just answered "Not right now," leaving the impression that I was on a break and that I'd be going back.  But lately I've just embraced the truth; when someone asks me now, I just tell them that, No, I am not in school.  When they ask when I'm going back, I just tell them I'm not.  I'm done with it.  I don't want a career, anyways.  And besides, it's a waste of time and money if you don't know what you're going to do with that new magic piece of paper.

I've always been a good student, too.  I've always loved learning, but I've never cared for school.  The teaching/learning methods forced upon us, as students, never seemed to work for me all the way.  I graduated high school with a 3.8 cumulative GPA, which I'm told means I can "do anything."  The thing is, I never did my homework, never studied, and never gave a fuck.  I actually had a teacher pull me aside one year after class to tell me that I was a bad influence on the other students because I wasn't doing my homework.  I had a 97% in her class.

School as-is isn't working how it should.  The things we're taught (although a good chunk of them are useless knowledge) could be taught to the students in a fraction of the time, and at least when it comes to college, for a fraction of the cost.  Of course I think teachers have an important job, since it's always a great thing to have someone there to help you through the text, but they could do their jobs so much differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at an age when one of two things are expected of me: go to school or get a job.  I&#8217;m at an age where everyone calls me an adult, but they still think of me as a kid.  I&#8217;m at an age that, at least in this society, makes life hectic and frustrating and not very fun at all. (I&#8217;m 20.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve attended 3 semesters of college, but it&#8217;s been a year since the last one.  Everyone asks me &#8220;Are you going to school?&#8221;  For a while I just answered &#8220;Not right now,&#8221; leaving the impression that I was on a break and that I&#8217;d be going back.  But lately I&#8217;ve just embraced the truth; when someone asks me now, I just tell them that, No, I am not in school.  When they ask when I&#8217;m going back, I just tell them I&#8217;m not.  I&#8217;m done with it.  I don&#8217;t want a career, anyways.  And besides, it&#8217;s a waste of time and money if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re going to do with that new magic piece of paper.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been a good student, too.  I&#8217;ve always loved learning, but I&#8217;ve never cared for school.  The teaching/learning methods forced upon us, as students, never seemed to work for me all the way.  I graduated high school with a 3.8 cumulative GPA, which I&#8217;m told means I can &#8220;do anything.&#8221;  The thing is, I never did my homework, never studied, and never gave a fuck.  I actually had a teacher pull me aside one year after class to tell me that I was a bad influence on the other students because I wasn&#8217;t doing my homework.  I had a 97% in her class.</p>
<p>School as-is isn&#8217;t working how it should.  The things we&#8217;re taught (although a good chunk of them are useless knowledge) could be taught to the students in a fraction of the time, and at least when it comes to college, for a fraction of the cost.  Of course I think teachers have an important job, since it&#8217;s always a great thing to have someone there to help you through the text, but they could do their jobs so much differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-13290</link>
		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-13290</guid>
		<description>I had a visceral distaste for school, my whole life.  I now know I split muself into any number of sub-personalities simply for the purpose of survival.  Thus the constant struggle for the last, oh, say, twenty years, to find my authentic self again.  I have such a powerful instinctual repulsion for the system that I cannot even put words to it, most times, which has made it difficult to explain to others why it is so very crucial that my daughter does NOT attend school.
I do not homeschool my daughter.  I'm not sure I even want to be known as an unschooler, for giving who I am and what I do TITLES makes my skin crawl, and is limiting, by definition.  That's why I liked what you said about books, Scout, and how once written down, they are, by their physical nature, restrictive.   I don't claim to know it all, but I also don't believe anyone else does.  The idea that we love to have our gurus and our teachers and our masters can lure us into spending most of our lives reading books, consulting manuals, the internet, etc., instead of going out into the 'real world' and growing by being.
I want my daughter to learn a new kind of intelligence, how to think, to reason, to use both her logic AND her deep sensitivity to the world around her, to live and think and PLAY outside the BOX I spent years and years clawing my way out of.
I haven't read much on the topic of schooling.  I prefer to go with my instincts, most times.  That has required immense amounts of self-trust, since the pressures from outside for me to conform (not for MY benefit, but so that everyone around me can remain comfortable that I am not rocking their ship of illusions) are very strong.
I felt the same way about pregnancy and giving birth.  It BLOWS my mind that at this stage of human development on this planet, there are more books out there on how to have a baby, and how to nurse and care for your baby than any mother could possibly wade through in years!  To me, this speaks of how absolutely useless spending some 18 years in institutions of education were to me and everyone else, if no woman out there has a f-ing clue how to give birth, when this is one of the most likely things she will experience in her lifetime!    The books represented WAY too much information, and eventually I realized I could feel the creeping in of all kinds of needless worry and fear as a result.  Counterproductive!!!  I thought: shouldn't giving birth and being a mother be a FEELING experience, not one where you are in your head the whole time?  I put the books away, and thought f-it, I'M DOING THIS MY WAY.  I gave birth in a highrise in downtown Toronto, with a midwife and my best friend and my partner and his two daughters, who watched Calli make her way into this world, and who cut her cord with love and reverence.  I was extremely present.  Where did I get my confidence and inner knowing/knowledge?  Being present for my sister's two births.  More valuable than ten books on said topic.
Wow, I've digressed, methinks.
I also wanted to say to Keelia that because you and I can read and write we get to experience the benefits of what we are right now engaged in, and perhaps that is worth it.  That's why we are encouraging Calli to learn these two things.  Indeed she is self-motivated to do so.   It is ONE of the pages we can all be on, but not the only one!  
PS, I am also a healer (in perpetual progress) much like yourself.
I hope my daughter will totally outstrip me in intelligent thinking and feeling and spirituality in such a way as to know no boumdaries.  I only hope that I am not too much of a hindrance to her in my ignorance or inability to provide enough creative environments for her.  What with my useless soul destroying educational background!
Natasha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a visceral distaste for school, my whole life.  I now know I split muself into any number of sub-personalities simply for the purpose of survival.  Thus the constant struggle for the last, oh, say, twenty years, to find my authentic self again.  I have such a powerful instinctual repulsion for the system that I cannot even put words to it, most times, which has made it difficult to explain to others why it is so very crucial that my daughter does NOT attend school.<br />
I do not homeschool my daughter.  I&#8217;m not sure I even want to be known as an unschooler, for giving who I am and what I do TITLES makes my skin crawl, and is limiting, by definition.  That&#8217;s why I liked what you said about books, Scout, and how once written down, they are, by their physical nature, restrictive.   I don&#8217;t claim to know it all, but I also don&#8217;t believe anyone else does.  The idea that we love to have our gurus and our teachers and our masters can lure us into spending most of our lives reading books, consulting manuals, the internet, etc., instead of going out into the &#8216;real world&#8217; and growing by being.<br />
I want my daughter to learn a new kind of intelligence, how to think, to reason, to use both her logic AND her deep sensitivity to the world around her, to live and think and PLAY outside the BOX I spent years and years clawing my way out of.<br />
I haven&#8217;t read much on the topic of schooling.  I prefer to go with my instincts, most times.  That has required immense amounts of self-trust, since the pressures from outside for me to conform (not for MY benefit, but so that everyone around me can remain comfortable that I am not rocking their ship of illusions) are very strong.<br />
I felt the same way about pregnancy and giving birth.  It BLOWS my mind that at this stage of human development on this planet, there are more books out there on how to have a baby, and how to nurse and care for your baby than any mother could possibly wade through in years!  To me, this speaks of how absolutely useless spending some 18 years in institutions of education were to me and everyone else, if no woman out there has a f-ing clue how to give birth, when this is one of the most likely things she will experience in her lifetime!    The books represented WAY too much information, and eventually I realized I could feel the creeping in of all kinds of needless worry and fear as a result.  Counterproductive!!!  I thought: shouldn&#8217;t giving birth and being a mother be a FEELING experience, not one where you are in your head the whole time?  I put the books away, and thought f-it, I&#8217;M DOING THIS MY WAY.  I gave birth in a highrise in downtown Toronto, with a midwife and my best friend and my partner and his two daughters, who watched Calli make her way into this world, and who cut her cord with love and reverence.  I was extremely present.  Where did I get my confidence and inner knowing/knowledge?  Being present for my sister&#8217;s two births.  More valuable than ten books on said topic.<br />
Wow, I&#8217;ve digressed, methinks.<br />
I also wanted to say to Keelia that because you and I can read and write we get to experience the benefits of what we are right now engaged in, and perhaps that is worth it.  That&#8217;s why we are encouraging Calli to learn these two things.  Indeed she is self-motivated to do so.   It is ONE of the pages we can all be on, but not the only one!<br />
PS, I am also a healer (in perpetual progress) much like yourself.<br />
I hope my daughter will totally outstrip me in intelligent thinking and feeling and spirituality in such a way as to know no boumdaries.  I only hope that I am not too much of a hindrance to her in my ignorance or inability to provide enough creative environments for her.  What with my useless soul destroying educational background!<br />
Natasha</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-13134</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-13134</guid>
		<description>I don't so much hate the schooling, as I do the fact that I could have spent that time doing projects on my own, under my parents' support. The classmates I knew who did have that opportunity somehow, managed to make out a lot better on that front. Now I live on my own, "making a living", and wondering why I never have time to do the things I want.

But yes, I went through the "You're gifted!" - "You're a failure!" bit too, though not anywhere near as severe. Then I went to a private school, struggled to stay afloat, went BACK to public school, and aced the grades again, just because I had adjusted to a higher difficulty level. But socially I think the experience practically killed me. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t so much hate the schooling, as I do the fact that I could have spent that time doing projects on my own, under my parents&#8217; support. The classmates I knew who did have that opportunity somehow, managed to make out a lot better on that front. Now I live on my own, &#8220;making a living&#8221;, and wondering why I never have time to do the things I want.</p>
<p>But yes, I went through the &#8220;You&#8217;re gifted!&#8221; - &#8220;You&#8217;re a failure!&#8221; bit too, though not anywhere near as severe. Then I went to a private school, struggled to stay afloat, went BACK to public school, and aced the grades again, just because I had adjusted to a higher difficulty level. But socially I think the experience practically killed me. <img src='http://www.urbanscout.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Keelia</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-12521</link>
		<dc:creator>Keelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-12521</guid>
		<description>Excellent article.  I am right there with you when it comes to the motives behind schooling. No doubt you have read Gatto's The Underground History of Education. Another one you would enjoy is Education for Extinction about the forced schooling of Native Americans, the motives are stunningly manipulative and ethnocentric. I am home/unschooling three children.  I too, see that we need to actively work towards change when it comes to our life choices.  

Just a small point I would add about the history of schooling, while it is true that mass public schooling has only been with us for a few hundred years, schools have existed anywhere there has been written language and math, all civilizations both ancient and modern. The Mayans had schools, the Sumerians had schools 8000 years ago.  These schools only 'educated' the elite and that has been the huge 'step forward' in that now we 'educate' everyone, if you can call it that.
Reading and math can not be acquired from simply watching someone else with those skills read or work sums, unlike foraging, hunting, fishing, herbal medicine etc etc.  Thus the necessity for schools. And in times past that very powerful advantage of 'secret' knowledge was used to keep the majority in bondage to the few.  It's not all that much different today.  Written language literally reshapes the brain in a physiological way.  A couple more books: The Alphabet vs the Goddess and  The Geography of Thought go into these subjects.
I was very conflicted about teaching my kids to read... but alas.. I succumbed to societal pressure and did.  

As a side note, I also hated school. I was homeschooled my high school years, had some college and dropped out. I am now a healer and have several certifications as such but am largely self taught.  I use various modalities with my clients; nutrition, herbs, energy work, hypnosis, body work.   I am always learning.  I think had I had a traditional education I wouldn't be nearly as inquisitive and intuitive.

Keelia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  I am right there with you when it comes to the motives behind schooling. No doubt you have read Gatto&#8217;s The Underground History of Education. Another one you would enjoy is Education for Extinction about the forced schooling of Native Americans, the motives are stunningly manipulative and ethnocentric. I am home/unschooling three children.  I too, see that we need to actively work towards change when it comes to our life choices.  </p>
<p>Just a small point I would add about the history of schooling, while it is true that mass public schooling has only been with us for a few hundred years, schools have existed anywhere there has been written language and math, all civilizations both ancient and modern. The Mayans had schools, the Sumerians had schools 8000 years ago.  These schools only &#8216;educated&#8217; the elite and that has been the huge &#8217;step forward&#8217; in that now we &#8216;educate&#8217; everyone, if you can call it that.<br />
Reading and math can not be acquired from simply watching someone else with those skills read or work sums, unlike foraging, hunting, fishing, herbal medicine etc etc.  Thus the necessity for schools. And in times past that very powerful advantage of &#8217;secret&#8217; knowledge was used to keep the majority in bondage to the few.  It&#8217;s not all that much different today.  Written language literally reshapes the brain in a physiological way.  A couple more books: The Alphabet vs the Goddess and  The Geography of Thought go into these subjects.<br />
I was very conflicted about teaching my kids to read&#8230; but alas.. I succumbed to societal pressure and did.  </p>
<p>As a side note, I also hated school. I was homeschooled my high school years, had some college and dropped out. I am now a healer and have several certifications as such but am largely self taught.  I use various modalities with my clients; nutrition, herbs, energy work, hypnosis, body work.   I am always learning.  I think had I had a traditional education I wouldn&#8217;t be nearly as inquisitive and intuitive.</p>
<p>Keelia</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11231</link>
		<dc:creator>Urban Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11231</guid>
		<description>Hey Shusli, Yeah I hate it when older people feel bad about not graduating. It's like, no, don't believe this shit!

Roxanne, thanks for you comments.

Misko, thanks for your comments.

Peter, thanks for your comments, and I will not mention the school I went to for legal purposes.

Anna, I'm so glad this help you and that it made you feel good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shusli, Yeah I hate it when older people feel bad about not graduating. It&#8217;s like, no, don&#8217;t believe this shit!</p>
<p>Roxanne, thanks for you comments.</p>
<p>Misko, thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>Peter, thanks for your comments, and I will not mention the school I went to for legal purposes.</p>
<p>Anna, I&#8217;m so glad this help you and that it made you feel good.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11224</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11224</guid>
		<description>Wow, did you just step in on a very deep and similar conversation I was having with my husband and father in law just last night?!  

Your article really helped us put some things in perspective such as the notion of getting schooled to get re-wilding education and how to get out of the vicious circle of civilization.

Unfortunately we realized too late the pointlessness of receiving a college education and now we are shit-deep in loans, working, as you put it, in "soul-sucking" jobs, trying to find an escape.  We find ourselves working our way out of society, but isn't that just feeding the monster?  

Thank you for your website, thoughts, knowledge, and motivation.  We feel we are not alone. . . thanks especially for that.  

By the way we are down here in Eugene. . .can we connect this great divide of I-5??  

Peace and Love</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, did you just step in on a very deep and similar conversation I was having with my husband and father in law just last night?!  </p>
<p>Your article really helped us put some things in perspective such as the notion of getting schooled to get re-wilding education and how to get out of the vicious circle of civilization.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we realized too late the pointlessness of receiving a college education and now we are shit-deep in loans, working, as you put it, in &#8220;soul-sucking&#8221; jobs, trying to find an escape.  We find ourselves working our way out of society, but isn&#8217;t that just feeding the monster?  </p>
<p>Thank you for your website, thoughts, knowledge, and motivation.  We feel we are not alone. . . thanks especially for that.  </p>
<p>By the way we are down here in Eugene. . .can we connect this great divide of I-5??  </p>
<p>Peace and Love</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11211</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11211</guid>
		<description>Every time I read one of your articles, I realize we have more and more in common, man.

I too, quit school and became an unschooler/autodidact.

I too have been to a week long survival class and thought it too expensive/limiting (though valuable and interesting) to be feasible for a lot of people, including myself. I'm thinking you're referring to a certain &lt;i&gt;Tracker&lt;/i&gt; school? ;)

I totally agree with your call for open-source culture. Open information sharing for survival, sustainability, and building balanced communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I read one of your articles, I realize we have more and more in common, man.</p>
<p>I too, quit school and became an unschooler/autodidact.</p>
<p>I too have been to a week long survival class and thought it too expensive/limiting (though valuable and interesting) to be feasible for a lot of people, including myself. I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;re referring to a certain <i>Tracker</i> school? <img src='http://www.urbanscout.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I totally agree with your call for open-source culture. Open information sharing for survival, sustainability, and building balanced communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Misko</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11196</link>
		<dc:creator>Misko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11196</guid>
		<description>I forgot, you also mentioned:

"*The Community Building Skill-Share

By running a public skill-share (such as a Rewild Camp) you can attract more people to rewilding and promote awareness for it while learning skills from others in the community. You can also run a private skill share for just family and friends. The purpose of the skill share comes back to the idea of building relationships and forming real cultures that hunt and gather together rather than continue to teach for money. I believe in exchanges and trading and the skill share does exactly that. You share your skills and learn from others who share theirs. You exchange your talents and knowledge instead of money.

*Emphasis on Social Technologies, not just artifact replication."

It is inspiring to see that this awareness is growing, in strength as well as in the number of people. This is actually something I've started to look into in my area. I'm not aware of anything of the sort goin on around here so...

Oli Bamkanni / Travel well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot, you also mentioned:</p>
<p>&#8220;*The Community Building Skill-Share</p>
<p>By running a public skill-share (such as a Rewild Camp) you can attract more people to rewilding and promote awareness for it while learning skills from others in the community. You can also run a private skill share for just family and friends. The purpose of the skill share comes back to the idea of building relationships and forming real cultures that hunt and gather together rather than continue to teach for money. I believe in exchanges and trading and the skill share does exactly that. You share your skills and learn from others who share theirs. You exchange your talents and knowledge instead of money.</p>
<p>*Emphasis on Social Technologies, not just artifact replication.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is inspiring to see that this awareness is growing, in strength as well as in the number of people. This is actually something I&#8217;ve started to look into in my area. I&#8217;m not aware of anything of the sort goin on around here so&#8230;</p>
<p>Oli Bamkanni / Travel well</p>
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		<title>By: Misko</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11194</link>
		<dc:creator>Misko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11194</guid>
		<description>Hey,

From beginning to end of serving time in school I had this fantasy of blowing them all (schools) up. Later though, I recovered and found out that I should not fantasize schools being blown up but the whole system, including schools. 

What I knew on a intuitive, instinctive level, I later gradually learned to articulate more in details as I was finding out about the intricacies of civilization's power structures.

Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>From beginning to end of serving time in school I had this fantasy of blowing them all (schools) up. Later though, I recovered and found out that I should not fantasize schools being blown up but the whole system, including schools. </p>
<p>What I knew on a intuitive, instinctive level, I later gradually learned to articulate more in details as I was finding out about the intricacies of civilization&#8217;s power structures.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: roxanne</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11191</link>
		<dc:creator>roxanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11191</guid>
		<description>Scout--Haven't had time to read your blog lately, so I was behind, but now I'm caught up...  Fantastic post.  I can so very strongly identify with the pain and loneliness and outrage you felt in school...  It is clear school only got in your way of knowing who you are and your place on --and in relationship to-- the planet and other beings.  I am so happy to know you, and to know you resisted.  

I love your analysis of what can be done instead, in sharing rewilding knowledge and community building.   There's so much here.  It feels like the core of your bok (but then I feel that way every post you write!!! :)

Thank you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scout&#8211;Haven&#8217;t had time to read your blog lately, so I was behind, but now I&#8217;m caught up&#8230;  Fantastic post.  I can so very strongly identify with the pain and loneliness and outrage you felt in school&#8230;  It is clear school only got in your way of knowing who you are and your place on &#8211;and in relationship to&#8211; the planet and other beings.  I am so happy to know you, and to know you resisted.  </p>
<p>I love your analysis of what can be done instead, in sharing rewilding knowledge and community building.   There&#8217;s so much here.  It feels like the core of your bok (but then I feel that way every post you write!!! <img src='http://www.urbanscout.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thank you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shusli</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11190</link>
		<dc:creator>Shusli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanscout.org/schooling-vs-rewilding/#comment-11190</guid>
		<description>Oh, GAwd, Scout, I'm sorry for the pain you've gone through in school.  I've only read part of this so far, but I'm feeling rage and sorrow for the indignities schooling inflicts everyone. I'm thinking about my two "misfit" "behavior problem" children - who are so smart and creative. I'm also thinking about my "Granny", who has always felt shame for having "only" an eighth grade education.  Yet she has taught me about plants, food preservation, sewing, scavenging, and lots more.

Damn this system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, GAwd, Scout, I&#8217;m sorry for the pain you&#8217;ve gone through in school.  I&#8217;ve only read part of this so far, but I&#8217;m feeling rage and sorrow for the indignities schooling inflicts everyone. I&#8217;m thinking about my two &#8220;misfit&#8221; &#8220;behavior problem&#8221; children - who are so smart and creative. I&#8217;m also thinking about my &#8220;Granny&#8221;, who has always felt shame for having &#8220;only&#8221; an eighth grade education.  Yet she has taught me about plants, food preservation, sewing, scavenging, and lots more.</p>
<p>Damn this system.</p>
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